Letters to the editor

Let citizens talk about south bypass

Supervisor Jacob,

A few weeks ago, I copied you on a letter I sent to Kristal Feilen asking why a concerned citizen was not able to comment on one of the items on your Revitalization Matrix list, the Ramona South Bypass. I have attended a number of your past meetings and spoke up on the destructive South Bypass plan and was told by you that the Revitalization Meeting was not a venue for public comments by concerned citizens.

Other than a few past and current Ramona planning group chairpersons and members, nobody wants the South Bypass. Currently, your Department of Public Works is working on plans for one of the projects within the South Bypass Plan, namely the Dye Road Extension-Phase I. This project will cost over $10 million.

The existing roadway we Ramonans are using is sufficient, but the county keeps plodding on only because a few ill-advised Ramona Community Planning Group members feel too embarrassed to ask the county to stop and not spend any further money on the South Bypass.

There is not one person in this county who will debate the merits of the Dye Road Extension with me and in the meantime, a new road, costing over $10 million may get built. To add insult to injury, this new road will route drivers closer to the ugly solar farm nobody wanted in Ramona.

I think you are making a big mistake not letting concerned citizens speak on any of the items. You can think about that when Carol Fowler, who is the champion of the SouthBypass, gives you her update on this item Nov. 20. Soon, I and a few concerned Ramona citizens will be visiting with all the merchants on Main Street and ask them to help stop this bypass mistake. They will do it because they know their businesses will fail if their traffic bypasses their front doors.

Additionally, can you even imagine the uproar in Ramona when and if Ramonans see a South Bypass cut through the heart of our Valley of the Sun?

If there are any citizens in Ramona who are concerned with keeping Ramona rural, please call 760-787-5763 or email me at jminervini1@cox.net and I will provide information for our local organization Citizens For a Rural Ramona (CFARR).

Joe Minervini
Ramona

Last week’s cartoon insults hardworking federal employees
The cartoon in last week’s Sentinel concerning federal employees is highly insulting.
None of these people asked to be furloughed.  They have already had weeks with a day’s furlough each week.  Do you think they wanted their mortgages and bills paid late, their credit possibly ruined?
San Diego could not survive without the military machine.  Federal employees here are the backbone of the Navy.  Sailors do not design weapons and defense systems.  Federal employees do.
Did the artist  even think that there are many federal employees who live in Ramona?  The cartoon shows nothing but ignorance and disrespect for hardworking people who couldn’t work while politicians picked their noses.

Paula Riddle
Ramona

Book about Cedar fire gives detailed account of experiences
I just read “The Fire Outside My Window” by Sandra Millers Younger, and I highly recommend this book to everyone living in Ramona and surrounding areas.
Sandra and her husband lost their home in the Cedar fire of 2003. In the book, she writes about the terrifying experience escaping from that fire.
Probably to understand how and why the Cedar fire was so destructive — burning her home and over 2,000 other homes — she interviewed fire officials, firefighters, and people who were in the path of the fire, resulting in a comprehensive picture of the Cedar fire, which many in Ramona can relate to.
From her detailed account of individual experiences, we better appreciate the extent of their tragedies. She also included Sergio Martinez, the man who started the Cedar Fire, as one of the casualties of the fire, as she writes: “Bob and I could look forward to rebuilding our lives. Martinez has to live his life knowing his actions had led to immeasurable loss and tragedy.” And, “I don’t know if my forgiving him helped him heal. I only know that it helped me.”

Tetsuo Matsui
Ramona

Ramona Concert Association thanks benefactors, sponsors
The Ramona Concert Association Board of Directors would like to thank our many Benefactors and Patrons for their generous support of Concerts in Ramona. The opening show of the 29th Season, with Quartetto Gelato, was a big success. The quartet performed and entertained beyond perfect!!
Our sincere thanks to our wonderful supporters. Perpetual Benefactor: Jeanne Ghilbert. Silver Benefactors: Guy and Kim Buchanan, Phil and Nancy Harding, Charles and Carol Oswalt, Ron and Marlene Robershaw.
Benefactors: Eileen Carter, Ramona Disposal Service, Al Slocum of Wateridge Insurance Services, Graham White, Douglas and Judy Wilsman.
Patrons:  Don and Arline Bartick, Dr. Gary and Deborah Blanpied, Sandy Burney, Harry and Sondra Butler, Bert and Mimi Byrne, Louis and Candace Carvalho, Wayne Channon of City Barber Shop, Stephen Courtney and Virginia Pollack, Craig and Mary Culver, Karl and Linnea Fitch, Bill and Mona Groves, Ralph and Millie Gurzi, Larry and La Belle Haeger, Robert and Charlotte Hunsberger, Wayne and Mary Jones, Charles Kennel and Ellen Lehman, W.T. Kirkman Lanterns Inc., Jerry and Pollyanna Meloche, Raleigh and Phyllis Neilson, Ransom Bros. Lumber and Supply Co., San Vicente Valley Club, Ron and Sonia Scanlon, Pat and Donna Tierney, Michael and Gail Voorhes, Terry and Connie Welke, Big  5 Sporting Goods, and Alicia Gonzales.

Marlene Robershaw
Ramona

Book about Cedar fire gives detailed account of experiences
I just read “The Fire Outside My Window” by Sandra Millers Younger, and I highly recommend this book to everyone living in Ramona and surrounding areas.
Sandra and her husband lost their home in the Cedar fire of 2003. In the book, she writes about the terrifying experience escaping from that fire.
Probably to understand how and why the Cedar fire was so destructive — burning her home and over 2,000 other homes — she interviewed fire officials, firefighters, and people who were in the path of the fire, resulting in a comprehensive picture of the Cedar fire, which many in Ramona can relate to.
From her detailed account of individual experiences, we better appreciate the extent of their tragedies. She also include Sergio Martinez, the man who started the Cedar Fire, as one of the casualties of the fire, as she writes: Bob and I could look forward to rebuilding our lives. Martinez has to live his life knowing his actions had led to immeasurable loss and tragedy.” And, “I don’t know if my forgiving him helped him heal. I only know that it helped me.”

Tetsuo Matsui
Ramona

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  1. Guest

    Give it up, Joe. This whole argument about the South Bypass is really about concerns regarding property values. YOUR property values. Stop trying to talk “for the people” because you aren’t about the people, just your own wants. Ugh. Poway’s calling, Move.

  2. Torry

    One thing I would like to have a discussion about, is changing the name of the project from South Bypass to Country Estates Connector. It is really not intended to "bypass" the town of Ramona, and it would not do that unless they build the portion from San Vicente to HWY 78, which they never will. The whole point of the project is to make it smother to unload cars from 67 and to more safely get them to San Vicente Rd.

    • whoseit

      What route is this road actually supposed to take?

      I was under the impression that the route simply extended Ramona Street from "Main Street (67) to Dye/Warnock. Is that accurate? If so, that does nothing to help people living in SDCE, nor anyone else really.

      If that isn't the planned route, what is?

      I also dont understand what difference the title of the project makes. How does that matter?

      • That is a separate road project called the Ramona St extension. The South Bypass has several stages to it, the first of which is called Dye Street. This includes constructing a road from about Mussey Grade to the first corner of Dye Rd. (you can actually see this road on most road maps, but it is unbuilt). The second part involves straightening out the two 90 degree corners on Dye Rd into a more sloping curve that will travel closer to the solar plant. These are the sections closest to construction. These improvements will help Country Estates commuters by being able to handle more cars merging off 67 and making the Dye Road drive a little safer.

        After this, there was a plan to keep Dye Rd going past San Vicente and connecting it to HWY 78 between Amigos Rd and 3rd Street. This was designed to allow through traffic to bypass the stoplights and slow speeds of downtown Ramona. The concept is that it would calm down Main Street allowing sidewalk cafes and such to flourish. This part of the project is further down the road list, no property has been acquired, and no concrete plans have been developed. I am not a big fan of this part of our roads master plan. The people driving from San Diego to the desert are precisely the ones we want driving through downtown to help our local businesses. Plus, this construction will be extremely expensive. Prohibitively expensive. I cannot image a world where the money exists to build this road in my lifetime. I believe that more road connects is a good thing, as it decreases congestion throughout the entire network, and improves evacuation needs in the event of an emergency, but I am unconvinced the last part of the South Bypass is worth it.

        While I am on the fence about it, there are many more people who will be up in arms over it. I don't want the needed improvements to Dye Rd to be lost in an argument about whether we want cars to drive around Ramona or not, when the real problem is clearly all of the traffic going to the Country Estates. Sorry if my answer was too wordy; the whole thing is pretty complicated and not just a little bit confusing.

        • Whoseit

          Thank you for the clarification.

          It does seem, based on your description, that by passing Main Street could be a deathnail for many of the businesses which would really be tragic.

          Is there truly a way to quantify SDCE trafic from 67 to San Vicente enough to warrant the expense of the road?

          • Sort of. In intersection of 67 and Dye Road is one of the most failing intersections in the county according to traffic studies. Beyond that, the justifications are mostly anecdotal and from rush hour drivers. There is no doubt that a lot of cars use this route, and the congestion can get quite bad during peak traffic hours. One thing is for certain, any roadwork that is done in today's world is crazy expensive. It is hard for me to wrap my head around the multimillion dollar costs, but there doesn't seem to be anything that can be done about that. At least not at the local level.

  3. Mike

    I agree with Torry. This really is about connecting SDCE and the Wildcat Canyon traffic with Hwy 67 and I support it in concept. SDCE probably represents at least 1/3 of all the population which makes up Ramona and they aren't all retired!. People need to get to and from faster and more directly.

  4. Joe Cahak

    Good comment and true Guest. Mr Minervini is all about his concerns not the community at large. He has a well in the easement. Torry it will be a south Bypass. That was the intention to get traffic through town, not just to the Estates. This is about easing the congestion in town so we can park, have safe pedestrian cross walks and more. Mr. Minervini’s scare and fear tactics are all off base and wrong. He and CFRR are all full of it and themselves. It is strictly about their impact and not what good it will do for the community. It never was and will never be about the community for Joe and CFRR. In fact their attitude and lack of respect shows in that no one wants to debate with Mr Minervini. This is a request he keeps making to the community and no one wants to take part in. Mr Minervini has destroyed most any good will and reason to work with him. He is completely wrong that no one wants this bypass. We polled the community and large percentages wanted it. We, thru RCPG, worked to develop a community road priority list and this priority list has been re-voted every year by the RCPG and the south bypass has continually stayed at or near the top.
    So Mr. Minervini is wrong. This road has community support and is a critical connection in the community and would go all the way through to Hwy 78 east of Ramona. I will no longer debate Mr Minervini on any topic. When I called him to debate the South Bypass last year, he got very rude and derogatory to me after I tried to tell him why the South Bypass was a good idea. There is a good reason no one wants to debate him.

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