Comments on: Good PR garners community support http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2013/01/03/good-pr-garners-community-support/ Ramona's Community Paper Since 1886 Tue, 21 May 2013 19:53:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: J.R. http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2013/01/03/good-pr-garners-community-support/#comment-624697 J.R. Wed, 09 Jan 2013 00:43:42 +0000 http://www.ramonasentinel.com/?p=20206#comment-624697 You're in the PR business? Wow! Way to win over those who disagree with you there Mr Workman. You're in the PR business? Wow! Way to win over those who disagree with you there Mr Workman.

]]> By: M.Workman http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2013/01/03/good-pr-garners-community-support/#comment-624653 M.Workman Tue, 08 Jan 2013 17:35:14 +0000 http://www.ramonasentinel.com/?p=20206#comment-624653 Rhetoric = "why should future generations pay for school board errors?" Because this community's growth and tax base is stagnate. Because our property values will continue to go in to the potty if our schools continue to slide. Rhetoric = "why give them more, they aren't doing what I think they should be doing with the money they have." " it's hard to blame the outcome on rhetorical influence" not for me it's not. And I wasn't calling you uneducated...a national study suggests voters in general are. I tend to agree and suggest opinions about the local school bond's necessity prove this. "Why pass a bond to fix up our schools? With the resources in this community, we parents can go paint and fix up our schools." Rhetoric = "why should future generations pay for school board errors?" Because this community's growth and tax base is stagnate. Because our property values will continue to go in to the potty if our schools continue to slide.

Rhetoric = "why give them more, they aren't doing what I think they should be doing with the money they have."

" it's hard to blame the outcome on rhetorical influence" not for me it's not. And I wasn't calling you uneducated…a national study suggests voters in general are. I tend to agree and suggest opinions about the local school bond's necessity prove this. "Why pass a bond to fix up our schools? With the resources in this community, we parents can go paint and fix up our schools."

]]> By: sandra j http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2013/01/03/good-pr-garners-community-support/#comment-624473 sandra j Tue, 08 Jan 2013 05:08:36 +0000 http://www.ramonasentinel.com/?p=20206#comment-624473 You are correct...the district has a huge PR problem, as in Pay Roll! The district cannot spend its entire income on payroll and that's what it's trying to do. The current income is $42 million and $41 million of it goes to salaries and benefits. Don't forget, none of the Prop R money was supposed to be used for salaries, but every other penny the district can beg, borrow or steal is. The trustees' proposal for the teachers to take a less-than-10% cut in order to prevent a state takeover seems completely fair given the economic climate the district operates in. It should include a multi-year pay freeze, and equal or greater cuts to the administration as well. Considering that I didn't see any anti-R roadsigns or even a statement of opposition on the ballot, it's hard to blame the outcome on rhetorical influence. Instead of fretting over falling a few percent short of passing a bond they feel entitled to, the district should do what the vast majority of voters want: commit to spending only what they receive. A payroll of 80-90% of income is what would garner community support. We've told them that 5 times now, and we're the ones labeled uneducated? You are correct…the district has a huge PR problem, as in Pay Roll! The district cannot spend its entire income on payroll and that's what it's trying to do. The current income is $42 million and $41 million of it goes to salaries and benefits. Don't forget, none of the Prop R money was supposed to be used for salaries, but every other penny the district can beg, borrow or steal is. The trustees' proposal for the teachers to take a less-than-10% cut in order to prevent a state takeover seems completely fair given the economic climate the district operates in. It should include a multi-year pay freeze, and equal or greater cuts to the administration as well.
Considering that I didn't see any anti-R roadsigns or even a statement of opposition on the ballot, it's hard to blame the outcome on rhetorical influence. Instead of fretting over falling a few percent short of passing a bond they feel entitled to, the district should do what the vast majority of voters want: commit to spending only what they receive. A payroll of 80-90% of income is what would garner community support. We've told them that 5 times now, and we're the ones labeled uneducated?

]]> By: M.Workman http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2013/01/03/good-pr-garners-community-support/#comment-624347 M.Workman Mon, 07 Jan 2013 19:29:53 +0000 http://www.ramonasentinel.com/?p=20206#comment-624347 Sadly, your poll bolsters a new study just released by the American Political Science Review suggesting voters are not very educated and overly influenced by rhetoric when voting. A similar study was done a while back and local voters were influenced most by roadsigns. You left out the reason for voting against the recent bond I heard often. "I don't want to strap my kids with this bond payment." Many parents with school aged children voted against this bond. I'm in the PR business and I will agree with you 100%, this district has a PR problem. The ONLY way it will be overcome is to have the Board, the Admin AND the teachers working from the same playbook. Three years leading up to a bond measure can't be filled with vitriolic attacks if you expect a bond to pass. Sadly, your poll bolsters a new study just released by the American Political Science Review suggesting voters are not very educated and overly influenced by rhetoric when voting. A similar study was done a while back and local voters were influenced most by roadsigns.

You left out the reason for voting against the recent bond I heard often. “I don’t want to strap my kids with this bond payment.” Many parents with school aged children voted against this bond.

I’m in the PR business and I will agree with you 100%, this district has a PR problem. The ONLY way it will be overcome is to have the Board, the Admin AND the teachers working from the same playbook. Three years leading up to a bond measure can’t be filled with vitriolic attacks if you expect a bond to pass.

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