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	<title>Comments on: Prop. R fails — now what?</title>
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		<title>By: Jane Tanaka MD</title>
		<link>http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/11/14/prop-r-fails-%e2%80%94-now-what/#comment-508608</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Tanaka MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 02:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know...... It would have been cheaper for me if the bond passed too.  That&#039;s why it would be voluntary... Its called altruism. ... and illogical concept for this issue perhaps... but might one for consideration.  It would take altruism for contractors and building supply businesses and computer experts to donate their service and materials as well... and most likely we&#039;d be asking more of them than $10 per working day.  
This methodology would be much more expensive for those who are willing to help, and would cost nothing to those who dont want to .   
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know&#8230;&#8230; It would have been cheaper for me if the bond passed too.  That&#039;s why it would be voluntary&#8230; Its called altruism. &#8230; and illogical concept for this issue perhaps&#8230; but might one for consideration.  It would take altruism for contractors and building supply businesses and computer experts to donate their service and materials as well&#8230; and most likely we&#039;d be asking more of them than $10 per working day.<br />
This methodology would be much more expensive for those who are willing to help, and would cost nothing to those who dont want to .</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/11/14/prop-r-fails-%e2%80%94-now-what/#comment-507617</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why wouldn&#039;t I have just voted for the bond then?  Wouldn&#039;t have cost me $3K annually using your methodology.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why wouldn&#039;t I have just voted for the bond then?  Wouldn&#039;t have cost me $3K annually using your methodology.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Tanaka MD</title>
		<link>http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/11/14/prop-r-fails-%e2%80%94-now-what/#comment-506833</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Tanaka MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 05:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parent, thank you for this recommendation; I think that overall that&#039;s a wonderful idea ! Others in editorials prior to the election have mentioned this as a solution also. Forgive my lack of knowledge in this area. I&#039;ve heard of properties that could be sold by the District, but dont know which properties have been proposed for sale. Respectfully, and I dont mean to put you on the spot, but which properties would  you suggest they sell? Are any of these properties the ones which house the Arriba Teen Center, or Ramona Community School, or Montecito High School, or do you mean the adminstration buildings? Or do mean empty lots, that would not mean closing down  these sites?  
Would this be overall a wise thing for Ramona&#039;s economy  when there are other such properties that are vacant lots and businesses for sale in Ramona that are not moving?   
If you are not able to answer these questions, I wonder if realtors, planning group members or school board members might be able to comment , please? I am not asking to be argumentative or oppositional. I woud just like to be better informed, as would other members of the community. Thank you.  
Sincerely,  
Jane Tanaka MD </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parent, thank you for this recommendation; I think that overall that&#039;s a wonderful idea ! Others in editorials prior to the election have mentioned this as a solution also. Forgive my lack of knowledge in this area. I&#039;ve heard of properties that could be sold by the District, but dont know which properties have been proposed for sale. Respectfully, and I dont mean to put you on the spot, but which properties would  you suggest they sell? Are any of these properties the ones which house the Arriba Teen Center, or Ramona Community School, or Montecito High School, or do you mean the adminstration buildings? Or do mean empty lots, that would not mean closing down  these sites?<br />
Would this be overall a wise thing for Ramona&#039;s economy  when there are other such properties that are vacant lots and businesses for sale in Ramona that are not moving?<br />
If you are not able to answer these questions, I wonder if realtors, planning group members or school board members might be able to comment , please? I am not asking to be argumentative or oppositional. I woud just like to be better informed, as would other members of the community. Thank you.<br />
Sincerely,<br />
Jane Tanaka MD</p>
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		<title>By: Parent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Repairs can be done with the money made selling real estate owned by the district.  LOWER THE PRICE AND IT WILL SELL.  Who cares if market is down, the schools need cash NOW! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Repairs can be done with the money made selling real estate owned by the district.  LOWER THE PRICE AND IT WILL SELL.  Who cares if market is down, the schools need cash NOW!</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Tanaka MD</title>
		<link>http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/11/14/prop-r-fails-%e2%80%94-now-what/#comment-504898</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Tanaka MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 04:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part 2... 
I guess today I am in a less sarcastic mood ( see entry above)... so here goes  a Proposal That is Not So Modest....  
So the Bond didnt pass, and now we need volunteers , goods and services from the community of Ramona to save our schools.   
If the above contributors to this blog thread would like to organize and set up a 501c3, so that people could donate seed money to get these projects started, I pledge that I will contribute to it. ... $250 a month ( $10/day for each day of the month I work) , until I retire in about 11 years. If there are 1999 other Ramonans or businesses in Ramona willing to contribute this much for this long, that would add up I believe to $66,000.000.  And the citizens who do not wish to contribute to this dont contribute ... and HOPEFULLY  they dont complain!. As for the accountability and funds management so monies are not spent frivously or foolishly, I nominate Patrick Meskell who is the most ______ person I know in Ramona.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part 2&#8230;<br />
I guess today I am in a less sarcastic mood ( see entry above)&#8230; so here goes  a Proposal That is Not So Modest&#8230;.<br />
So the Bond didnt pass, and now we need volunteers , goods and services from the community of Ramona to save our schools.<br />
If the above contributors to this blog thread would like to organize and set up a 501c3, so that people could donate seed money to get these projects started, I pledge that I will contribute to it. &#8230; $250 a month ( $10/day for each day of the month I work) , until I retire in about 11 years. If there are 1999 other Ramonans or businesses in Ramona willing to contribute this much for this long, that would add up I believe to $66,000.000.  And the citizens who do not wish to contribute to this dont contribute &#8230; and HOPEFULLY  they dont complain!. As for the accountability and funds management so monies are not spent frivously or foolishly, I nominate Patrick Meskell who is the most ______ person I know in Ramona.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Tanaka MD</title>
		<link>http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/11/14/prop-r-fails-%e2%80%94-now-what/#comment-504890</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Tanaka MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 04:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK ...last night i composed a &quot;Modest Proposal&quot; in response to the above editorial about what&#039;s next after Proposition R&#039;s demise.. but deleted it  &amp;didnt post it, because it would have been taken literally by some folks.... It involved Superintendent  Graeff and Special Ed Teacher Ms Verkouteren  sitting on a dunk tank to earn money for the school repairs... and children being taught how to put up dry wall , replace sewer lines and repair roofs in elementary school, at their elementary school, etc.  ( If you wish, refresh your memory from High School English Lit, and google Jonathan Swift&#039;s Modest Proposal.).   
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK &#8230;last night i composed a &quot;Modest Proposal&quot; in response to the above editorial about what&#039;s next after Proposition R&#039;s demise.. but deleted it  &amp;didnt post it, because it would have been taken literally by some folks&#8230;. It involved Superintendent  Graeff and Special Ed Teacher Ms Verkouteren  sitting on a dunk tank to earn money for the school repairs&#8230; and children being taught how to put up dry wall , replace sewer lines and repair roofs in elementary school, at their elementary school, etc.  ( If you wish, refresh your memory from High School English Lit, and google Jonathan Swift&#039;s Modest Proposal.).</p>
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		<title>By: Fed Up!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fed Up!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 20:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed!  But they would first have to quit worrying about themselves and their me, me, me attitude. Ain&#039;t gonna happen! 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed!  But they would first have to quit worrying about themselves and their me, me, me attitude. Ain&#039;t gonna happen!</p>
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		<title>By: taxpayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>taxpayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 04:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see a lot of Realtors advertising on this page. Imagine how helpful it would be if they would help advance this cause. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see a lot of Realtors advertising on this page. Imagine how helpful it would be if they would help advance this cause.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Vrooman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol Vrooman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 17:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I getting this wrong? Did we try to borrow yet another millions of dollars in order to pay the millions we borrowed in &#039;04? OMGosh!!! I&#039;m sorry but that fiscal irresponsibility doesn&#039;t work in the private sector, what moron thinks it will work in the public? The time has come to pay the piper. Yep it&#039;s going to hurt and hurt badly but we got ourselves into this fix with the unfettered borrowing, out of control spending etc so we just have to suck it up and get ourselves out. 
I totally agree with the editorialist it is high time we take back control from out of control government. WE, the community, THE PEOPLE will take care of matters. And of course the district has &#039;some valid concerns-things like licenses, insurance, and permits&quot; they are losing some power and don&#039;t like it. I&#039;m sure along with the contractors, suppliers, laborers etc. there are attorneys, consultants etc. who can guide us through the labrynthine gubmental processes. 
Come on Ramona, lets step up. We&#039;ve spoken NO MORE BONDS, now lets get our hands dirty. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I getting this wrong? Did we try to borrow yet another millions of dollars in order to pay the millions we borrowed in &#039;04? OMGosh!!! I&#039;m sorry but that fiscal irresponsibility doesn&#039;t work in the private sector, what moron thinks it will work in the public? The time has come to pay the piper. Yep it&#039;s going to hurt and hurt badly but we got ourselves into this fix with the unfettered borrowing, out of control spending etc so we just have to suck it up and get ourselves out.<br />
I totally agree with the editorialist it is high time we take back control from out of control government. WE, the community, THE PEOPLE will take care of matters. And of course the district has &#039;some valid concerns-things like licenses, insurance, and permits&quot; they are losing some power and don&#039;t like it. I&#039;m sure along with the contractors, suppliers, laborers etc. there are attorneys, consultants etc. who can guide us through the labrynthine gubmental processes.<br />
Come on Ramona, lets step up. We&#039;ve spoken NO MORE BONDS, now lets get our hands dirty.</p>
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