Comments on: Water board hesitant to allow property for evacuation use http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/10/27/water-board-hesitant-to-allow-property-for-evacuation-use/ Ramona's Community Paper Since 1886 Wed, 19 Jun 2013 23:22:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: Cindy http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/10/27/water-board-hesitant-to-allow-property-for-evacuation-use/#comment-471858 Cindy Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:20:15 +0000 http://www.ramonasentinel.com/?p=18647#comment-471858 I concur with Uh Huh. We stayed in 2007 in the SDCE knowing the 2003 fires had gobbled up a lot of the combustables near us. In the dogmatic attempt to cover their asses the authorities recommend evacuation regardless of the respective circumstances resulting in a much more dangerous situation in the gridlock on San Vincente and all the outgoing arteries of Ramona. I concur with Uh Huh. We stayed in 2007 in the SDCE knowing the 2003 fires had gobbled up a lot of the combustables near us. In the dogmatic attempt to cover their asses the authorities recommend evacuation regardless of the respective circumstances resulting in a much more dangerous situation in the gridlock on San Vincente and all the outgoing arteries of Ramona.

]]> By: Ruby http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/10/27/water-board-hesitant-to-allow-property-for-evacuation-use/#comment-470629 Ruby Tue, 30 Oct 2012 23:11:09 +0000 http://www.ramonasentinel.com/?p=18647#comment-470629 Everyone I have talked to won't evacuate next time...last time was a MESS. There will be no one on the roads if there is a next time because 85% of Ramona won't evacuate! We learned our lesson the first time! Everyone I have talked to won't evacuate next time…last time was a MESS. There will be no one on the roads if there is a next time because 85% of Ramona won't evacuate! We learned our lesson the first time!

]]> By: What a joke http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/10/27/water-board-hesitant-to-allow-property-for-evacuation-use/#comment-470218 What a joke Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:08:20 +0000 http://www.ramonasentinel.com/?p=18647#comment-470218 After the last fire the RCPG vacated a real road so that special interest could get rich from public property. The county promised Ramona an alternative road. What we got was this fantasy. RCPG and especially Jim Piva are a train wreck after four years of humilating failures and now they want us to believe that an existing eight foot wide dirt path going nowhere is an evacuation route? I think we elected RCPG to do better than an unimproved dirt path fantasy. Don't you? If you are a sheepeople that likes koolaide than this is the evacuation route for you! If you think RCPG was elected to make good decisions and fight for Ramona than go to the next RCPG meeting and tell them this is not okay! If we do nothing, we will continue to be short changed in this community........ After the last fire the RCPG vacated a real road so that special interest could get rich from public property. The county promised Ramona an alternative road. What we got was this fantasy.

RCPG and especially Jim Piva are a train wreck after four years of humilating failures and now they want us to believe that an existing eight foot wide dirt path going nowhere is an evacuation route? I think we elected RCPG to do better than an unimproved dirt path fantasy. Don't you? If you are a sheepeople that likes koolaide than this is the evacuation route for you!

If you think RCPG was elected to make good decisions and fight for Ramona than go to the next RCPG meeting and tell them this is not okay!

If we do nothing, we will continue to be short changed in this community……..

]]> By: What a joke! http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/10/27/water-board-hesitant-to-allow-property-for-evacuation-use/#comment-470212 What a joke! Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:00:21 +0000 http://www.ramonasentinel.com/?p=18647#comment-470212 Joe M - On main street fire and police can assist people and there are side streets that can be used to relieve traffic. On a 8 foot wide dirt path in the grasslands there are no lights, no cell phone coverage, no signs or emergeny lanes. Less than 10 years ago almost a dozen people, whole families, died in this community trying to evacuate on a better road than this. People need to go to RCPG and tell them RAMONA DESERVES BETTER THAN A DIRT PATH EVACUATION ROUTE FANTASY! RCPG needs to deliver not make up fantasies and expect Ramona to drink the koolaide Joe M – On main street fire and police can assist people and there are side streets that can be used to relieve traffic. On a 8 foot wide dirt path in the grasslands there are no lights, no cell phone coverage, no signs or emergeny lanes. Less than 10 years ago almost a dozen people, whole families, died in this community trying to evacuate on a better road than this.

People need to go to RCPG and tell them RAMONA DESERVES BETTER THAN A DIRT PATH EVACUATION ROUTE FANTASY! RCPG needs to deliver not make up fantasies and expect Ramona to drink the koolaide

]]> By: Uh huh http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/10/27/water-board-hesitant-to-allow-property-for-evacuation-use/#comment-470148 Uh huh Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:55:29 +0000 http://www.ramonasentinel.com/?p=18647#comment-470148 Exactly what I was thinking!!! Has anyone thought past getting people to 67? All the cars are going to meet up and go where? Another observation...when they evacuated the town...why did everyone leave...was your home in danger? Do you have a well? I live on Montecito Rd and did NOT leave. There was no fire danger and life continued as normal, although I did watch the Main St mess, which was ridiculous. Exactly what I was thinking!!! Has anyone thought past getting people to 67? All the cars are going to meet up and go where? Another observation…when they evacuated the town…why did everyone leave…was your home in danger? Do you have a well? I live on Montecito Rd and did NOT leave. There was no fire danger and life continued as normal, although I did watch the Main St mess, which was ridiculous.

]]> By: Bart http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/10/27/water-board-hesitant-to-allow-property-for-evacuation-use/#comment-469077 Bart Tue, 30 Oct 2012 02:52:53 +0000 http://www.ramonasentinel.com/?p=18647#comment-469077 Joe, The reason the County vacated Montecito Road was "for security reasons" at the airport which is another way of saying they want a developer to expand the airport (Ramona Air Center), but the strings attached to FAA money are that they have to oppose development at the end of the runway. Guess what was located at the end of the runway . . . Montecito Road. Traffic to the development now has to come from the east. Joe,
The reason the County vacated Montecito Road was "for security reasons" at the airport which is another way of saying they want a developer to expand the airport (Ramona Air Center), but the strings attached to FAA money are that they have to oppose development at the end of the runway. Guess what was located at the end of the runway . . . Montecito Road. Traffic to the development now has to come from the east.

]]> By: Joe Minervini http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/10/27/water-board-hesitant-to-allow-property-for-evacuation-use/#comment-468149 Joe Minervini Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:48:19 +0000 http://www.ramonasentinel.com/?p=18647#comment-468149 I'd rather be stuck in the grasslands instead of on Main St. with, in some places, towering eucalyptus trees and buildings on both sides. Beck (RMWD) stated "......the county abandoned two road plans on the north end that would have been much better suited for evacuation routes. Montecito Road could have connected with Rangeland Road, but was vacated in 2009 because of the grasslands and the airport." I say we never should've agreed to vacate what Beck speaks of. There may have been a good reason, but I have yet to hear it. In reality, any relief Main St. can get during a wildfire evac. will be better than none. God forbid, if there were a wildfire tomorrow, I'll bet the new Sheriff in town will open the planned evac route. Rats or no rats. Joe Minervini, I'm in the Phone book I'd rather be stuck in the grasslands instead of on Main St. with, in some places, towering eucalyptus trees and buildings on both sides. Beck (RMWD) stated "……the county abandoned two road plans on the north end that would have been much better suited for evacuation routes. Montecito Road could have connected with Rangeland Road, but was vacated in 2009 because of the grasslands and the airport." I say we never should've agreed to vacate what Beck speaks of. There may have been a good reason, but I have yet to hear it. In reality, any relief Main St. can get during a wildfire evac. will be better than none. God forbid, if there were a wildfire tomorrow, I'll bet the new Sheriff in town will open the planned evac route. Rats or no rats.
Joe Minervini, I'm in the Phone book

]]> By: Truth Hurts http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/10/27/water-board-hesitant-to-allow-property-for-evacuation-use/#comment-466881 Truth Hurts Sun, 28 Oct 2012 22:13:14 +0000 http://www.ramonasentinel.com/?p=18647#comment-466881 This proposed "evacuation" route solves nothing. Stuck in the grasslands during a wildfire... yea that's where I want to be... This proposed "evacuation" route solves nothing. Stuck in the grasslands during a wildfire… yea that's where I want to be…

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