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		<title>By: GetReal</title>
		<link>http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/10/03/groups-agree-on-emergency-evacuation-route/#comment-440961</link>
		<dc:creator>GetReal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am concerned this is a red-herring designed to get a northern bypass for the Montecito Ranch housing project.  The Supervisors stand with the developers and commercial interests, not with the people, so I deserve to be skeptical.  I am all for saving lives during an emergency, but this route doesn&#039;t seem to fill the bill.  Its unimproved, unmarked, primative and mostly unknown to residents that are expected to find it in the dark while in a bit of a panic.  So many questions come up on how this will be made into a viable escape route while protecting the sensitve grasslands habitat. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am concerned this is a red-herring designed to get a northern bypass for the Montecito Ranch housing project.  The Supervisors stand with the developers and commercial interests, not with the people, so I deserve to be skeptical.  I am all for saving lives during an emergency, but this route doesn&#039;t seem to fill the bill.  Its unimproved, unmarked, primative and mostly unknown to residents that are expected to find it in the dark while in a bit of a panic.  So many questions come up on how this will be made into a viable escape route while protecting the sensitve grasslands habitat.</p>
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		<title>By: Fed Up!</title>
		<link>http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/10/03/groups-agree-on-emergency-evacuation-route/#comment-440233</link>
		<dc:creator>Fed Up!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 02:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UPDATE!  Board of Stupidvisors approved/endorsed this route today (10/9/12). Remember this is just a route, not a roadway, improved or not. It is basically a single lane trail that is dirt until it reaches RMWD property where it will turn north 300&#039;, then west for about 1,000&#039; across a grass field that is not clearly delineated as to where to drive. It will basically be a free for all, especially when panic sets in.  This is nothing but smoke and mirrors folks. If any of you watch the local news remember the video they show of firefighters and bulldozers in the flames in a grassy area during the Witch Fire?  Well this is exactly where this route is going. Yes the location of this route burnt in 2007.  They also want you to go down Highland Valley Road to RB. Literally 100% of Highland Valley burnt up in that fire along with many, many homes, avocado groves, horses and yes, two lives.  Piva wants to plead his case before RMWD at it&#039;s 10/23/12 Board Meeting. If you don&#039;t like this plan make your voice heard (if you can get there at 2pm).  The best thing the county can do is have amoretti methodical evacuation plan rather than trying to get 40k people out all at once. This route will do nothing but kill someone! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UPDATE!  Board of Stupidvisors approved/endorsed this route today (10/9/12). Remember this is just a route, not a roadway, improved or not. It is basically a single lane trail that is dirt until it reaches RMWD property where it will turn north 300&#039;, then west for about 1,000&#039; across a grass field that is not clearly delineated as to where to drive. It will basically be a free for all, especially when panic sets in.  This is nothing but smoke and mirrors folks. If any of you watch the local news remember the video they show of firefighters and bulldozers in the flames in a grassy area during the Witch Fire?  Well this is exactly where this route is going. Yes the location of this route burnt in 2007.  They also want you to go down Highland Valley Road to RB. Literally 100% of Highland Valley burnt up in that fire along with many, many homes, avocado groves, horses and yes, two lives.  Piva wants to plead his case before RMWD at it&#039;s 10/23/12 Board Meeting. If you don&#039;t like this plan make your voice heard (if you can get there at 2pm).  The best thing the county can do is have amoretti methodical evacuation plan rather than trying to get 40k people out all at once. This route will do nothing but kill someone!</p>
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		<title>By: Fed Up!</title>
		<link>http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/10/03/groups-agree-on-emergency-evacuation-route/#comment-435542</link>
		<dc:creator>Fed Up!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 03:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And when all is said and done  even if this were an improved roadway you still end up where?  Either Hwy 67 &amp; Highland Valley Rd, Hwy 67 &amp; Archie Moore or are stuck driving down that winding Highland Valley Road.  No difference than where we all ended up in 2007 </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And when all is said and done  even if this were an improved roadway you still end up where?  Either Hwy 67 &amp; Highland Valley Rd, Hwy 67 &amp; Archie Moore or are stuck driving down that winding Highland Valley Road.  No difference than where we all ended up in 2007</p>
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		<title>By: Fed Up!</title>
		<link>http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/10/03/groups-agree-on-emergency-evacuation-route/#comment-433200</link>
		<dc:creator>Fed Up!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 02:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so Piva can have a feather in his cap, a ribbon cutting photo op with Supv. Jacob, the only evac route of it&#039;s type in the county. All he cares about is his own image. This is the worse idea ever concocted and believe me, I know more about it than the average person does. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so Piva can have a feather in his cap, a ribbon cutting photo op with Supv. Jacob, the only evac route of it&#039;s type in the county. All he cares about is his own image. This is the worse idea ever concocted and believe me, I know more about it than the average person does.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Jacobey</title>
		<link>http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/10/03/groups-agree-on-emergency-evacuation-route/#comment-432909</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Jacobey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 19:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I asked a cop and a fireman what they think about this route last year.  They laughed thier heads off and said &quot;We cannot recomend it&quot;. 
 
Did anyone ask a cop or fireman if this was a good idea?  Why would they risk peoples lives sending them down a path that bottlenecks at the highway.  All it does is put people at great risk. 
 
This idea stinks! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I asked a cop and a fireman what they think about this route last year.  They laughed thier heads off and said &quot;We cannot recomend it&quot;. </p>
<p>Did anyone ask a cop or fireman if this was a good idea?  Why would they risk peoples lives sending them down a path that bottlenecks at the highway.  All it does is put people at great risk. </p>
<p>This idea stinks!</p>
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		<title>By: BAD IDEA</title>
		<link>http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/10/03/groups-agree-on-emergency-evacuation-route/#comment-432907</link>
		<dc:creator>BAD IDEA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 19:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read this again and it gets even more stupid.  They are going to have a small piece of the road light up 24/7.  I sure would hate to have that in front of my house.  Is the County going to reinburse us for our property rights, or are they just going to steal them so that we can pretend they did something. 
 
BTW - I thought this route already existed?  I am looking at a map from the Fire Council in Ramona and it has the route and is dated 2009?  Do we have to listen to this garbage every time Piva is up for election?  Does no one care that people will get hurt? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read this again and it gets even more stupid.  They are going to have a small piece of the road light up 24/7.  I sure would hate to have that in front of my house.  Is the County going to reinburse us for our property rights, or are they just going to steal them so that we can pretend they did something. </p>
<p>BTW &#8211; I thought this route already existed?  I am looking at a map from the Fire Council in Ramona and it has the route and is dated 2009?  Do we have to listen to this garbage every time Piva is up for election?  Does no one care that people will get hurt?</p>
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		<title>By: what a joke</title>
		<link>http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/10/03/groups-agree-on-emergency-evacuation-route/#comment-432903</link>
		<dc:creator>what a joke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 19:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the last fire 35,000 people had to evacuate and it took days.  This dirt path through brush and cattle grazing is in open country and impassable in the rain or dark.  People with regular cars will get lost, hurt and burn alive out here.   
 
This cannot be a real scenario that the ramon planning commission can be considering.  Why the rush?  election season?  I don&#039;t vote for bad ideas or dangerous shortcuts. 
 
Please arrainge tours for the public so that we can see the fruits of your bright ideas, Mr. Piva. 
 </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the last fire 35,000 people had to evacuate and it took days.  This dirt path through brush and cattle grazing is in open country and impassable in the rain or dark.  People with regular cars will get lost, hurt and burn alive out here.   </p>
<p>This cannot be a real scenario that the ramon planning commission can be considering.  Why the rush?  election season?  I don&#039;t vote for bad ideas or dangerous shortcuts. </p>
<p>Please arrainge tours for the public so that we can see the fruits of your bright ideas, Mr. Piva.</p>
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		<title>By: BAD IDEA!</title>
		<link>http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/10/03/groups-agree-on-emergency-evacuation-route/#comment-432900</link>
		<dc:creator>BAD IDEA!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 19:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This should be a crime!!! 
 
This route is a scam.  It is a dirt road that has existed forever.  I DARE ANYONE TO DRIVE THIS ROAD AND REPORT BACK.  Has the Sentinel bothered to drive this dangerous, dark, unmarked unlight goat trail? 
 
This is just Piva trying to get reelected after a horrible four year term.  Are you sure no one opposes this?  Why not ask the public in a poll and inquire with the dozens of homeowners who will have a dangerous route going through thier private property.   
 
Shame on the people that want to pull the wool over our eyes and call this a solution.  People could die on this dangerous road.  Shame </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This should be a crime!!! </p>
<p>This route is a scam.  It is a dirt road that has existed forever.  I DARE ANYONE TO DRIVE THIS ROAD AND REPORT BACK.  Has the Sentinel bothered to drive this dangerous, dark, unmarked unlight goat trail? </p>
<p>This is just Piva trying to get reelected after a horrible four year term.  Are you sure no one opposes this?  Why not ask the public in a poll and inquire with the dozens of homeowners who will have a dangerous route going through thier private property.   </p>
<p>Shame on the people that want to pull the wool over our eyes and call this a solution.  People could die on this dangerous road.  Shame</p>
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