Comments on: Sheriff stages weekend safety detail at Cedar Creek Falls http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/07/14/sheriff-stages-weekend-safety-detail-at-cedar-creek-falls/ Ramona's Community Paper Since 1886 Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:23:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: Rational Human http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/07/14/sheriff-stages-weekend-safety-detail-at-cedar-creek-falls/#comment-384983 Rational Human Wed, 08 Aug 2012 17:51:57 +0000 http://www.ramonasentinel.com/?p=15676#comment-384983 To continue Mike Bodman's comments on personal accountability, we should apply the same level of responsibility to fat people. My health insurance premiums shouldn't pay for fat people and their fat fingers. Tax the fatties! To continue Mike Bodman's comments on personal accountability, we should apply the same level of responsibility to fat people. My health insurance premiums shouldn't pay for fat people and their fat fingers. Tax the fatties!

]]> By: Mike Bodman http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/07/14/sheriff-stages-weekend-safety-detail-at-cedar-creek-falls/#comment-368916 Mike Bodman Fri, 20 Jul 2012 01:34:32 +0000 http://www.ramonasentinel.com/?p=15676#comment-368916 Hikerchick and Shane both hit on something that is NEVER mentioned in these little stories and that is "accountability." Why are the tax payers taking a hit for other people's stupidity and wreckless endangerment of themselves and their animals? Where is the accountability?? If you don't have the most basic of common sense, or if you are that selfish that you are going to require a civil servant to come and rescue you from a situation that YOU put yourself in, then YOU should be the one picking up the tab. NOT tax payers. Hikerchick and Shane both hit on something that is NEVER mentioned in these little stories and that is "accountability." Why are the tax payers taking a hit for other people's stupidity and wreckless endangerment of themselves and their animals? Where is the accountability??

If you don't have the most basic of common sense, or if you are that selfish that you are going to require a civil servant to come and rescue you from a situation that YOU put yourself in, then YOU should be the one picking up the tab. NOT tax payers.

]]> By: Shane http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/07/14/sheriff-stages-weekend-safety-detail-at-cedar-creek-falls/#comment-368543 Shane Thu, 19 Jul 2012 17:31:28 +0000 http://www.ramonasentinel.com/?p=15676#comment-368543 I'm sick and tired of being punished for the failure and lack of common sense of others. The trail-head should not be closed because it's Summer and/or "unsafe to hike". The people who cannot determine whether they can handle the length of hike or temperature conditions should be punished for their stupidity. If you are unprepared and need to be rescued, then you pay for that rescue, period. I'm sick and tired of being punished for the failure and lack of common sense of others. The trail-head should not be closed because it's Summer and/or "unsafe to hike". The people who cannot determine whether they can handle the length of hike or temperature conditions should be punished for their stupidity. If you are unprepared and need to be rescued, then you pay for that rescue, period.

]]> By: Hikerchick http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/07/14/sheriff-stages-weekend-safety-detail-at-cedar-creek-falls/#comment-366583 Hikerchick Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:03:13 +0000 http://www.ramonasentinel.com/?p=15676#comment-366583 First why was the Sheriff at the Ramona trail head for Cedar Falls? Isn't it closed? Second, why did they reopen the Julian TH during the summer when it is simply unsafe to hike. I am a long time resident and hiker of Ramona and it never fails to blow me away how ill-prepared some hikers are. I know that in the Natl Parks you are fined if you go off with not enough water and end up having to be rescued. Whatever happened to accountability? And the "party" down at the falls is something akin to animal house. Littering, having illegal fires and drinking alcohol in concealed containers. Oh and bringing your dog and not having enough water them, that is simply abusive. The USFS needs to spell it out at the TH's, not enough water and you are fined. First why was the Sheriff at the Ramona trail head for Cedar Falls? Isn’t it closed? Second, why did they reopen the Julian TH during the summer when it is simply unsafe to hike. I am a long time resident and hiker of Ramona and it never fails to blow me away how ill-prepared some hikers are. I know that in the Natl Parks you are fined if you go off with not enough water and end up having to be rescued. Whatever happened to accountability? And the “party” down at the falls is something akin to animal house. Littering, having illegal fires and drinking alcohol in concealed containers. Oh and bringing your dog and not having enough water them, that is simply abusive. The USFS needs to spell it out at the TH’s, not enough water and you are fined.

]]> By: Guy http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/07/14/sheriff-stages-weekend-safety-detail-at-cedar-creek-falls/#comment-364426 Guy Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:17:23 +0000 http://www.ramonasentinel.com/?p=15676#comment-364426 ASTREA is always having to save sorry hikers. Does anyone have common sense these days? If you're not in shape, don't hike to Cedar Creek Falls in the summer time. Idiots. ASTREA is always having to save sorry hikers. Does anyone have common sense these days? If you're not in shape, don't hike to Cedar Creek Falls in the summer time. Idiots.

]]> By: Bryan Herness http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/07/14/sheriff-stages-weekend-safety-detail-at-cedar-creek-falls/#comment-364420 Bryan Herness Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:02:46 +0000 http://www.ramonasentinel.com/?p=15676#comment-364420 If that group did not come and make the falls as accessible by re-doing the trail, this would not be an issue. If that group did not come and make the falls as accessible by re-doing the trail, this would not be an issue.

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