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	<title>Comments on: Man, 19, jailed for allegedly beating homeless man</title>
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		<title>By: Erica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2012 04:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think a few of you need to refrain from speaking so horribly about and calling tanner such repulsive names such as scum of the earth. yes, tanner is a troubled kid. and yes, tanner does not have the best parents which resulted in an unfortunate up-bringing. but he is a human being! and a 19 year old human being at that! come on people, i will be the first one to say that what he did was wrong, and with wrong decisions come punishments and he should serve his time, but tanner is someone i know and to see some of these comments make my stomach turn. bottom line is that what he did was wrong, yes. but he is a child, a child who clearly needs love, direction and support especially since he has never received these things from people that most of us were fortunate to have, OUR PARENTS. we as parents need to learn to step up to the plate and raise our children and set them up for success, not failure. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think a few of you need to refrain from speaking so horribly about and calling tanner such repulsive names such as scum of the earth. yes, tanner is a troubled kid. and yes, tanner does not have the best parents which resulted in an unfortunate up-bringing. but he is a human being! and a 19 year old human being at that! come on people, i will be the first one to say that what he did was wrong, and with wrong decisions come punishments and he should serve his time, but tanner is someone i know and to see some of these comments make my stomach turn. bottom line is that what he did was wrong, yes. but he is a child, a child who clearly needs love, direction and support especially since he has never received these things from people that most of us were fortunate to have, OUR PARENTS. we as parents need to learn to step up to the plate and raise our children and set them up for success, not failure.</p>
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		<title>By: gary</title>
		<link>http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/05/08/man-19-jailed-for-allegedly-beating-homeless-man-with-hammer/#comment-304591</link>
		<dc:creator>gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 20:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you have a problem with a person such as tanner did you should call the police and let them deal with it.  Seems reasonable.   When you take the matter into your own hands like whats happened here, bother sides lose.  Tanner....take this as a life lesson and maybe get some anger management classes as back up.  Caring parents try to use this a learning example of what not to do. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you have a problem with a person such as tanner did you should call the police and let them deal with it.  Seems reasonable.   When you take the matter into your own hands like whats happened here, bother sides lose.  Tanner&#8230;.take this as a life lesson and maybe get some anger management classes as back up.  Caring parents try to use this a learning example of what not to do.</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
		<link>http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/05/08/man-19-jailed-for-allegedly-beating-homeless-man-with-hammer/#comment-302854</link>
		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 21:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>half of you dont even know what the hell youre talking about. you dont know what happened to lead up to all of this. yeah, it was stupid and wrong and hell pay for it. but really? tanner wasnt the only one to beat this guy. and he wasnt just some &quot;homeless man&quot;, he deserved what he got and more for crap hes done. one of the so called &quot;witnesses&quot;, a 16 year old or so kid, egged him on to go beat this guy, and even joined in and bragged about it to other friends later in the day that he kicked him twice in the head and blahblah, and when he was questioned, blamed everything on tanner and even exaggerated to make it seem worse. 
and there were not 8 witnesses. they all know exactly what went on. only a few kids were there to actually see this happen, and theyre either keeping their mouth shut to protect themselves or blaming it all on tanner. there was a big group of kids down the street that were all hanging out together, and tanner and a few went to that house, out of view. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>half of you dont even know what the hell youre talking about. you dont know what happened to lead up to all of this. yeah, it was stupid and wrong and hell pay for it. but really? tanner wasnt the only one to beat this guy. and he wasnt just some &quot;homeless man&quot;, he deserved what he got and more for crap hes done. one of the so called &quot;witnesses&quot;, a 16 year old or so kid, egged him on to go beat this guy, and even joined in and bragged about it to other friends later in the day that he kicked him twice in the head and blahblah, and when he was questioned, blamed everything on tanner and even exaggerated to make it seem worse.<br />
and there were not 8 witnesses. they all know exactly what went on. only a few kids were there to actually see this happen, and theyre either keeping their mouth shut to protect themselves or blaming it all on tanner. there was a big group of kids down the street that were all hanging out together, and tanner and a few went to that house, out of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Meme</title>
		<link>http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/05/08/man-19-jailed-for-allegedly-beating-homeless-man-with-hammer/#comment-302203</link>
		<dc:creator>Meme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 01:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are all idiots! Tanner was a loyal friend and  stuck up for what he believed in, none of you know what happened or the reason he targeted this guy. So when you come on here and call a 19 year old scum to this earth, you&#039;re talking about someone that people cared for and are feeling sorrow for now that he isn&#039;t able 
To live his life because he took something he had heard about this man too far... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are all idiots! Tanner was a loyal friend and  stuck up for what he believed in, none of you know what happened or the reason he targeted this guy. So when you come on here and call a 19 year old scum to this earth, you&#8217;re talking about someone that people cared for and are feeling sorrow for now that he isn&#8217;t able</p>
<p>To live his life because he took something he had heard about this man too far&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
		<link>http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/05/08/man-19-jailed-for-allegedly-beating-homeless-man-with-hammer/#comment-302170</link>
		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 01:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW. . . im  sad for the man who was beaten. Im in agreement that criminals must be punished... im afraid for those involved and it seems the problems will get worse,  and soon AND WE, THE PARENTS, SHOULD DO OUR PART INSTEAD OF BLAMING ANYONE, Parenting is inconvenient at times, that is a fact  many of us seem to forget.  and that creates extra work and higher risk for the police.   _I WOULD BE MORE AFRAID WITHOUT THE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WHO RISK THEIR LIVES EVERY DAY TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE OF THIS TOWN. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW. . . im  sad for the man who was beaten. Im in agreement that criminals must be punished&#8230; im afraid for those involved and it seems the problems will get worse,  and soon AND WE, THE PARENTS, SHOULD DO OUR PART INSTEAD OF BLAMING ANYONE, Parenting is inconvenient at times, that is a fact  many of us seem to forget.  and that creates extra work and higher risk for the police.   _I WOULD BE MORE AFRAID WITHOUT THE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WHO RISK THEIR LIVES EVERY DAY TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE OF THIS TOWN.</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 19:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WE the people have allowed this to happen!!! I have never seen such a poor excuse for parents!!! I cant wait to take my children out of this SCUM!!! I love the parents that  are in complete deniel about there kids&quot;,Mine would never&quot;!! Please yours are the worse.Tanner is Scum of the Earth!! I know first hand.The cops are just  now coming around to busting these losers and im so glad they are!!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WE the people have allowed this to happen!!! I have never seen such a poor excuse for parents!!! I cant wait to take my children out of this SCUM!!! I love the parents that  are in complete deniel about there kids&quot;,Mine would never&quot;!! Please yours are the worse.Tanner is Scum of the Earth!! I know first hand.The cops are just  now coming around to busting these losers and im so glad they are!!!</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
		<link>http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/05/08/man-19-jailed-for-allegedly-beating-homeless-man-with-hammer/#comment-301391</link>
		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 09:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of the ten years i have been in Ramona. Its been in the last five that i have seen the most change. I lived in an apartment complex on Montecito where the homeless commonly enter and exit the riverbed (they live in). Im sad and disgusted that we have so many in this little town. i dont think ramona residents realize how many of them   are 18 - 25,  and younger (male and female). Do you know where your sons and daughters stay when they are not staying with you?  The homeless in ramona are not all mid-aged drunk men. Our sons and daughters are in trouble. . . . and yes, heroin is a huge problem and it only takes one time to create an addict..  . . desparate to &quot;get well&quot; every single day. . They just dont know what they are getting into at age 18.  Please keep your kids at home as long as you can and dont turn your back just because their 18.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of the ten years i have been in Ramona. Its been in the last five that i have seen the most change. I lived in an apartment complex on Montecito where the homeless commonly enter and exit the riverbed (they live in). Im sad and disgusted that we have so many in this little town. i dont think ramona residents realize how many of them   are 18 &#8211; 25,  and younger (male and female). Do you know where your sons and daughters stay when they are not staying with you?  The homeless in ramona are not all mid-aged drunk men. Our sons and daughters are in trouble. . . . and yes, heroin is a huge problem and it only takes one time to create an addict..  . . desparate to &quot;get well&quot; every single day. . They just dont know what they are getting into at age 18.  Please keep your kids at home as long as you can and dont turn your back just because their 18.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen Cawyer</title>
		<link>http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/05/08/man-19-jailed-for-allegedly-beating-homeless-man-with-hammer/#comment-301294</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen Cawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 05:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Tanner person was already nineteen! That is considered &quot;of age&quot; nowadays, people. Parents have no legal rights to control kids of this age; one reasone why crime is so rampant today! We need to put the age of majority back up to age 21 like it used to be, and hopefully begin to get our country back. This 18 are of majority is a complete farce and a failure, perpetrated by a bunch of politicians who needed the votes way back in the 1960&#039;s.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Tanner person was already nineteen! That is considered &quot;of age&quot; nowadays, people. Parents have no legal rights to control kids of this age; one reasone why crime is so rampant today! We need to put the age of majority back up to age 21 like it used to be, and hopefully begin to get our country back. This 18 are of majority is a complete farce and a failure, perpetrated by a bunch of politicians who needed the votes way back in the 1960&#039;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen Cawyer</title>
		<link>http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2012/05/08/man-19-jailed-for-allegedly-beating-homeless-man-with-hammer/#comment-301289</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen Cawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 05:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think everyone should just settle down a little bit. If the cops questioned some under age kids, it does not mean they knew the suspect - perhaps they were just in the area at the time and MIGHT have seen something. The cops are wise enough to know that often the kids know more about what is going on than adults do (who tend to mind their own business and ignore stuff a lot). If the kids were &quot;detained&quot; or taken down to the station, then I absolutely think the parents should be notified. After all, it is their job to know where their kids are, right? - At least that is what everybody here is stating.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think everyone should just settle down a little bit. If the cops questioned some under age kids, it does not mean they knew the suspect &#8211; perhaps they were just in the area at the time and MIGHT have seen something. The cops are wise enough to know that often the kids know more about what is going on than adults do (who tend to mind their own business and ignore stuff a lot). If the kids were &quot;detained&quot; or taken down to the station, then I absolutely think the parents should be notified. After all, it is their job to know where their kids are, right? &#8211; At least that is what everybody here is stating.</p>
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		<title>By: sharla</title>
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		<dc:creator>sharla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 15:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Concerned Mom, you need to PARENT!  OBVIOUSLY if these teens were detained for questioning,they were associated with this OBVIOUSLY troubled kid.  Dont be worried about them sitting in a cop car being questioned, be worried about WHY their hanging out with someone who could beat a unconscious man!  This is insane, you have an issue with law enforcement clearly, but if that were your child he had beat hammer or not, I&#039;d think you would want everyone possible to be questioned whether involved or NOT!  Thend This guy is a coward and runs and hides??  Astrea was up here for what almost an hour because Tanner is man enough to almost kill a man, but not man enough to own up??  Good job parents!   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerned Mom, you need to PARENT!  OBVIOUSLY if these teens were detained for questioning,they were associated with this OBVIOUSLY troubled kid.  Dont be worried about them sitting in a cop car being questioned, be worried about WHY their hanging out with someone who could beat a unconscious man!  This is insane, you have an issue with law enforcement clearly, but if that were your child he had beat hammer or not, I&#039;d think you would want everyone possible to be questioned whether involved or NOT!  Thend This guy is a coward and runs and hides??  Astrea was up here for what almost an hour because Tanner is man enough to almost kill a man, but not man enough to own up??  Good job parents!</p>
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