Comments on: Cedar Creek Falls trail closes after news of fatality http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2011/07/07/cedar-creek-falls-trail-closes-after-news-of-fatality/ Ramona's Community Paper Since 1886 Sat, 18 May 2013 17:13:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: Jack http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2011/07/07/cedar-creek-falls-trail-closes-after-news-of-fatality/#comment-5744 Jack Thu, 28 Jul 2011 22:07:18 +0000 http://ramonasentinel.mscsddev.com/?p=1452#comment-5744 Elaine, there is a difference between an accident in a regularly maintained national park and a place like Cedar Falls where kids hike in with beers and drunkenly party with no regulation or county supervision. Elaine, there is a difference between an accident in a regularly maintained national park and a place like Cedar Falls where kids hike in with beers and drunkenly party with no regulation or county supervision.

]]> By: maureenrobertson http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2011/07/07/cedar-creek-falls-trail-closes-after-news-of-fatality/#comment-5473 maureenrobertson Wed, 27 Jul 2011 00:44:47 +0000 http://ramonasentinel.mscsddev.com/?p=1452#comment-5473 No, it is not open. The forest service is working on a management plan. No, it is not open. The forest service is working on a management plan.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2011/07/07/cedar-creek-falls-trail-closes-after-news-of-fatality/#comment-5272 Kevin Tue, 26 Jul 2011 04:27:12 +0000 http://ramonasentinel.mscsddev.com/?p=1452#comment-5272 When will it reopen? or is it open now? When will it reopen? or is it open now?

]]> By: Elaine Lyttleton http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2011/07/07/cedar-creek-falls-trail-closes-after-news-of-fatality/#comment-4032 Elaine Lyttleton Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:48:19 +0000 http://ramonasentinel.mscsddev.com/?p=1452#comment-4032 I saw in the news today that a hiker fell and was killed in Yosemite. Are they closing that National Park? I'm just sayin... I saw in the news today that a hiker fell and was killed in Yosemite. Are they closing that National Park? I’m just sayin…

]]> By: maureenrobertson http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2011/07/07/cedar-creek-falls-trail-closes-after-news-of-fatality/#comment-3101 maureenrobertson Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:43:47 +0000 http://ramonasentinel.mscsddev.com/?p=1452#comment-3101 No, it hasn't. No, it hasn’t.

]]> By: Chris http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2011/07/07/cedar-creek-falls-trail-closes-after-news-of-fatality/#comment-3085 Chris Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:49:51 +0000 http://ramonasentinel.mscsddev.com/?p=1452#comment-3085 Does anyone know if the trail has reopened yet? Does anyone know if the trail has reopened yet?

]]> By: Skeej http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2011/07/07/cedar-creek-falls-trail-closes-after-news-of-fatality/#comment-2876 Skeej Thu, 14 Jul 2011 02:21:34 +0000 http://ramonasentinel.mscsddev.com/?p=1452#comment-2876 Concur with Fred- its a shame that irresponsible users spoil it for everyone. Black Canyon north of Ramona has had the same problems with teen drinking and partying and trashing the place. I think the solution is to hire a ranger, who will be on site and on the trail for educational purposes, who can also issue tickets for breaking the rules, and make sure the Sheriffs support them by being at the trail head when called. Then you put the people who are ticketed to work doing community service to clean up the trail and the falls. Consistent enforcement works, and the word does go out. Charge people for rescues as well, just as they are for ambulance or helicopter rides, and make sure everyone knows what the tab is, by posting on the trail head, in advance. Concur with Fred- its a shame that irresponsible users spoil it for everyone. Black Canyon north of Ramona has had the same problems with teen drinking and partying and trashing the place.

I think the solution is to hire a ranger, who will be on site and on the trail for educational purposes, who can also issue tickets for breaking the rules, and make sure the Sheriffs support them by being at the trail head when called.

Then you put the people who are ticketed to work doing community service to clean up the trail and the falls. Consistent enforcement works, and the word does go out.

Charge people for rescues as well, just as they are for ambulance or helicopter rides, and make sure everyone knows what the tab is, by posting on the trail head, in advance.

]]> By: Angel http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2011/07/07/cedar-creek-falls-trail-closes-after-news-of-fatality/#comment-2108 Angel Sat, 09 Jul 2011 03:27:46 +0000 http://ramonasentinel.mscsddev.com/?p=1452#comment-2108 And he wasn't even jumping off, he was hiking FYI And he wasn’t even jumping off, he was hiking FYI

]]> By: Angel http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2011/07/07/cedar-creek-falls-trail-closes-after-news-of-fatality/#comment-2107 Angel Sat, 09 Jul 2011 03:26:36 +0000 http://ramonasentinel.mscsddev.com/?p=1452#comment-2107 You people making it seem that he was being stupid or was acting out of line should just be ashamed of yourselves. He was saying a prayer before he had died, not him just acting like an irresponsible teenager. I feel bad for you guys. RIP Joe Meram, my friend. You people making it seem that he was being stupid or was acting out of line should just be ashamed of yourselves. He was saying a prayer before he had died, not him just acting like an irresponsible teenager. I feel bad for you guys. RIP Joe Meram, my friend.

]]> By: Brian Ellsworth http://www.ramonasentinel.com/2011/07/07/cedar-creek-falls-trail-closes-after-news-of-fatality/#comment-2009 Brian Ellsworth Fri, 08 Jul 2011 16:03:57 +0000 http://ramonasentinel.mscsddev.com/?p=1452#comment-2009 I'm not suggesting they close it. But more controlsneed to be in place. I’m not suggesting they close it. But more controlsneed to be in place.

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